19 October 09
Lay Report: Epic Same Night Lay
Author : DaxxOne Was Too Epic Not To
I never post about my lays, but this was one of the most epic same night lays I’ve ever had without fail…so in other words I felt it deserved a write up lol.
Was planning to write this sooner, but only got back from a week in Vegas for the Superconference a couple days ago so my head’s only just about on thinking terms again. This was from a couple weeks ago when I was out with DaHunter.
As Braddock would say – we had been working like ugly strippers for a couple weeks straight, and like you will know, if you work for a few weeks solid without going out your head gets caught up in the work mind space so when it comes to going out and socialising again you’re like a fish out of water.
We were only planning on having a couple drinks & chilling but like most nights we’ve had out lately, throw us in the mix of a club full of hot girls & alcohol and prepare for the night to escalate faster than expected (may have something to do with DaHunter opening at least 5 girls within 2 minutes of being there before we’ve even made it to the bar…if there was an opening robot that opened anything with tits and ass it would have his face on it).
After opening 10 or so sets that pretty much all hooked to some degree, we’re having a drink at the bar and notice a bunch of the girls we’d opened were hovering around us. Naturally, we can’t help but start to bring the thunder, and what happens when you bring the thunder? You guessed it, you get lost in the storm.
I go to the bathroom and surprise surprise when I return DaHunter is making out with this some hot blonde… so time to go lone ranger. I catch a cute brunette girl on my left look over in my peripheral, after doing this for long enough you’ll feel you’ve re-wired the Neuro-nets in your brain (from Braddock and Mr. M’s Inner Game seminar) and you link hot girls with opening them without hesitation. I turn my head, catch eye contact with her and say –
Me: ‘So just because you’re hot you think you don’t have to say hi…’ She says (while smiling) –
Her: ‘Uh…Hi…’
She responds positively but doesn’t hook too much so can tell I’ve got some work to do. I start spitting the fire, and a couple minutes in she uses the ‘Are you a player?’ card. (If you’re unsure of how to get past shit tests I wrote an article on it here) So I respond with –
Me: ‘I’ve only got 653 numbers & had hooked up 17 times in the last 5 minutes so I’m not a player’.
I smile, she laughs and I carry on. I can feel she’s slightly resistant so need to pull out some big guns…time for takeaways to come into play. I get her laughing and as I feel it hit the high point, I half turn her, get my phone out and start reading a text Bonsai sent me. I can tell her heads scrambling because I was just making her laugh and then turned away from her. She grabs my arm and says playfully –
Her: ‘Hey don’t ignore me!’
I smile, turn back and re-initiate conversation. The thing with takeaways is you want her to get the feeling of loss, not necessarily anxiety like she would if you stated your boundaries, but more that she has to chase you, then the reward which was a smile and reinitiating conversation is essential to make her feel like she’s got your attention back.
Even after doing just a small takeaway, her grabbing my arm and having to chase a little made a big shift from me chasing her, to her chasing me now. Thing about takeaways too is they can be used as pings, you can tell how much a girl is into you by how much she is willing to chase. Couple minutes later however she says again –
Her: ‘Seriously though are you a player?’
Me: ‘I told you just because I’ve got a different girlfriend for everyday of the week doesn’t make me a player!’ she laughs and says again
Her: ‘Honestly though are you a player?’
Time to push more towards boundaries and give her some social anxiety so I say (In a neutral tone) –
‘Look I think you’re really cute and am having fun talking to you, it was funny before but it’s pretty rude of you to keep asking that.’
Takeaways give the girl the feeling of loss, whereas boundaries give the girl the feeling she needs to correct her behaviour. That’s not a huge boundary, but it’s enough for her to feel the anxiety. She then responds with –
‘I’m sorry I just didn’t know if I was just another number to you’. Now she’s complying, remember the reward is essential so I say –
Me: ‘It’s cool, look are you having fun?’
Her: ‘Yeh’
Me: ‘Then let’s keep having fun’
It’s not too long until it’s 2am and the lights start to come on so I say –
Me: ‘You ready to get out of here’
Her: ‘Yeh I think my friends are outside’
Me: ‘Let’s go’
We make our way outside but her friends aren’t there so she says –
Her: ‘Wait here I think my friends are still inside’
Me: (playfully) ‘Well be quick because I’m not waiting forever!’
She goes back inside and I see DaHunter so we talk for a couple mins and she comes back out with a couple guys & girls. I’d spoke to a few of the guys earlier in the night so works in my favour big time when they say –
‘This is the guy?! He’s cool as shit you’d be crazy not to take him back!’
When a girls guy friends say that, it’s close to impossible that you’re not going to bang her that night. We talk with her friends for a bit and while doing so, a girl from a couple weeks before comes out of nowhere, playfully hits me on the arm and says –
‘Hey mister, do you remember me?’ I hadn’t banged this chick or anything but was with Braddock a couple weeks back and it was on with these two girls me & him were talking to. I didn’t get her number though because Braddock got her friends number and we had said we would hang out soon. So now I have to keep it cool with her, keep it cool with the other girl, and keep it cool with her friends. With some friendly teasing and out of ear shot I tell the girl from a couple weeks ago that we’ll hang out with Braddock & her friend soon. Back to girl #1 and her friends. I whisper in her ear ‘Let’s go’.
We say later to her friends and start walking to catch a cab. It’s going well and from all the hard work this is going to be an epic pull, but the best is yet to come. I hail a cab down and literally as the cab pulls up she goes –
Her: ‘No we can’t do this, I never take guys home and I know if you come back we’re just going to end up having sex’ (Credit Braddock & get ready for this hardcore takeaway/boundary)
Me: (I let go of her hand) ‘You think the only reason I wanna come back with you is to have sex? If that was the case I wouldn’t be here, I could have gone home with any girl I wanted in that place and the fact I kept speaking to you is because you’re pretty fucking cool and I wanna get to know you better. But if you think the only reason I wanna come back is for sex then that’s fucking disrespectful. You know what fuck this I’m out’
I turn to walk away, and she grabs me back and goes –
Her: ‘No don’t!’
Me: ‘Alright let’s go’, jump in the cab and she is all over me like a fly to shit. We go back to hers and cocksmanship was maintained.
She said I was the first guy she’d taken home from a club, but what I learnt ever more than before from this is that girls will do what they can to murder their own seduction, even though they want it to happen. She was a cool chick and glad it happened, but the thing is I could have lost her at several points throughout the night, other thing to point out is she felt she knew she could lose me as much as I could lose her. When I turned to walk away, if she didn’t grab me, I wouldn’t have looked back. If you’re going to use takeaways & boundaries you have to do them with 100% meaning, you can’t be a pussy about them. That’s why me & Braddock call it ‘Man Game!’
Without the size of the takeaways & boundaries building up & up as the conversation went further & further that pull would not have happened. Aside from the fact DaHunter & me social proofed the hell out of that place, the takeaways and boundaries are what made that a solid pull.
There was more in between that happened too, but I just wanted to highlight the main points, had to write this one up solely out of the effort it took to make it happen! A lot of what this pull has on an underlying level is something me, DaHunter, Braddock & Mr. M have been talking about lately on beliefs. DaHunter just made a sick post about beliefs here and recommend reading it if you’re at a more advanced level.
MAN GAME!!!
Daxx
UPDATE: Forgot to mention, I hadn’t even made out with this girl until we got in the cab…
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October 19th, 2009 at 1:28 am
Hey pal you didn’t really mention your proximity & kino technique(s) in this LR. I understand that Kino is removed when doing takeaways and when establishing boundaries. It would be interesting to hear how/when you escalated during the LR though.
If you’re anything like me then you’re probably not conscious of it so didn’t think it needed mentioning. But the risk I’m finding with kinoing subconsciously is that i’m not hitting the right points every time I should be.
Excellant writeup though. It’s quite easy to see how your inner game and the “man game” go hand in hand!
Q
October 19th, 2009 at 1:32 am
I love learning from
u guys… U all
have put me in a new league
u golden dicks rock!!
October 19th, 2009 at 3:43 am
Golden dicks lol!! Cheers Brian.
Q I could have detailed out every bit of kino up until banging this chick, but it would have been a 10 page report instead of 3. In summary, the amped up kino on high notes, and again got more sexual on high notes. But I hadn’t even made out with the girl until we got in the cab! Cheers for your thoughts though guys
October 19th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
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October 19th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
So all you did for attraction was social proof, takeaways and boundaries, trully sick, I have seen some boundaries, but those you used were hardcore, really set the tempo and frame of the interaction, totally sick man.